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Who will the Christians believe ? Jesus Christ or Qadiani Christ ?
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Bismillah Ar-Rehman Ar-Raheem

Anti Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam

June 30 2009


"By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Eisa) Ibne Maryam will soon descend amongst you as a Just Ruler; Thus he will Break

the Cross, Kill the Swine and Prohibit the War."

(Sahih Bukhari, Book of Prophets, No 668)


Who will the Christians listen to?

Original Messiah or Qadiani Messiah?




I invite all Ahmadis / Qadianis to honestly ponder on this question and give the answer.


Background: For 14 hundred years Muslims have believed unanimously that Hazrat Eisa Ibne Maryam AS

was raised with his physical body to heavens and will return before the Qiyamah. This belief is based on Quran

and Hadith. Christians also believe in the second coming of Hazrat Eisa Ibne Maryam AS. Mirza Ghulam

Ahmad Qadiani, when he decided to forward the claim of being Promised Messiah, put forward the concept of

death of Jesus, without whose death he could not possibly convince his followers to be the promised messiah.

He went to great lengths to find the grave of Jesus Christ. First he wrote to one of his follower in Palestine and

based on his feedback announced that the grave of Jesus is in Galilee; later he claimed that it is in Jerusalem.

Finally he sent one of his follower to Kashmir and announced that the grave of Jesus is actually in Kashmir.

Holy Quran says in Surah An-Nisa:



"That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed

him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts,

with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not." Al-Quran 4:157)

Hadith of Holy Prophet Muhammad_:

Muslims believe in the coming of Hazrat Eisa Ibne Maryam AS because Holy Prophet Muhammad _ has said

it. Following is just one authentic Hadith about the coming of Hazrat Eisa Ibne Maryam:

"By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Eisa) Ibne Maryam will soon descend amongst you as a Just Ruler;

Thus he will Break the Cross, Kill the Swine and Prohibit the War." (Sahih Bukhari, Book of Prophets, No 668)

According to this Hadith, Hazrat Eisa AS will perform the following functions:

• He will be a Just Ruler

• Break the cross

• He will kill the swine

• Prohibit the war

Mirza Ghulam Announces the death of Hazrat Eisa Ibne Maryam:

Despite Quranic injuctions and clear sayings of Holy Prophet Muhammad _about Hazrat Eisa Ibne Maryam,

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani had a different opinion. He believed that Hazrat Eisa Ibne Maryam was

crucified, survived the crucifiction, went to Kashmir and died there at the age of 123. In the words of Holy

Quran he just followed his conjectures. (which is very obvious when one reads his book Maseeh Hindustan


"God has revealed to me in his special inspiration that Maseeh Ibne Maryam is dead." (Tauzeeh-e-

Maram, Roohani Khazain vol. 3 p.402)

"I have been informed about the grave of Eisa (in Kashmir). And I have been informed by Holy Quran

and God's Revelation to me about the Death of Jesus." (Roohani Khazain vol. 18 p.358, 361)

Mirza claims to be the Promised Messiah

"I proclaim that I am the Promised Messiah about whom every God's book has prophesized that he will

appear in the Last Days." (Tohfa-e-Golravia, Roohani Khazain vol. 17 p.295)

"I swear upon that God, who has sent me and fabricating on Him is the work of accursed one, He has

sent me as Promised Messiah." (Majmoo'a-e-Ishtiharaat vol. 3 p.435)

From the above quotations it is obvious that Mirza claims that:

• Hazrat Eisa Ibne Maryam is dead

• Hazrat Eisa Ibne Maryam's grave is in Kashmir

• Hazrat Eisa Ibne Maryam will not come as Promised Messiah (as oppose to the belief of Muslims and


• Mirza Ghulam has come as Promised Messiah.

Although Mirza Ghulam claimed to be Eisa Ibne Maryam - the Promised Messiah, according to his own

revelation, but read the Hadith again and then look at the life history of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani. He did

not rule even for a single day his own village. Even 100 years after his death, there is no justice in the world and

there are wars everywhere. Christians have increased To justify his claims Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani and

his followers have ridiculed this belief of breaking the cross and killing the swine, as the following quotation


"Mian Imamuddin Saheb Sekhwani told me that Hazrat Maseeh Mowood often used to mention that

according to our opponents when the Messiah will come and people will go to house to meet him, then his

family will say that Messiah Saheb has gone out to the jungle to kill swines; then these people will exclaim

that what kind of Messiah is this, that he has come for the guidance of people and he is roaming around

game-hunting the swines. Then he (Mirza) used to say that the cobblers, sweepers and vagrants, who do

such things, will be more happy with the coming of such a person; how can Muslims be happy? After

describing this he used to laugh so much that many a times his eyes used to get watery." (Seeratul Mahdi

vol.3 pp 291-292)



Is Mirza Qadiani really the Promised Mahdi ?
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Anti Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam

21th December 2001


Is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani the Promised Imam Mahdi or Promised Messiah?

by Dr. Rashid

Dear Readers

Assalamo alaikum

Islam is the chosen religion of Allah; Quran is the final message of The Creator to mankind, sent to us through His Last and Final Messenger Muhammad . Holy Prophet Muhammad announced in His Ahadith that he is the Final Messenger of Allah. Moreover, he also prophesied the coming of Imam Mahdi (AS)as well as Hazrat Eisa Ibne Maryam (AS) before the Day of Qiyamah. These three things are part of the faith of Muslims since the time of Holy Prophet Muhammad.

However, during the past 1400 years, there have been many imposters who have laid claim to all these three offices – Prophet, Messiah, Mahdi. During our times we are also faced with such a person, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, the founder of Ahmadiyya Movement. Mirza Ghulam claimed to be a Prophet, Messiah and Imam Mahdi, all in one. 

Despite these heretical beliefs, he and his followers claim to be Muslims and Champions of Islam. They label all other Muslims as Kaafirs and disbelievers. Many innocent and ignorant people in Africa gets deceived by these claims of Mirza Ghulam and consider him to be Imam Mahdi or Messiah or reformer in Islam.

This short paper will examine all these claims in the light of Quran and Hadith, for the benefit of our ignorant and unsuspecting Muslims brothers, who have never heard of Mirza Ghulam or Ahmadiyya/Qadianiyah and get deceived by their claims.

Islam – A Chosen Religion:

Allah completed His favors on us and announced:

5:3 This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed my favor upon you and have chosen for you Islam as your way of life.

Holy Prophet Muhammad - The Final Messenger (SAW)

Allah announced that there is no Prophet after Syedna Muhammad (SAW).

33.40:Muhammad is not the father of any of your men but (he is) the Apostle of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.

Holy Prophet Muhammad(SAW). categorically mentioned in many Hadith that he is the Last Messenger and Prophet of Allah, and there will be no Prophets after Him. For instance:

·The Holy Prophet (SAW)observed: "The tribe of Israel was guided by prophets. When a prophet passed away, another prophet succeeded him. But no prophet will come after me; only caliphs will succeed me." (Bukhari, Kitab-ul-Manaqib).

·The Prophet of Allah (SAW) affirmed: "My position in relation to the prophets who came before me can be explained by the following example:

·A man erected a building and adorned this edifice with great beauty, but he left an empty niche, in the corner where just one brick was missing. People looked around the building and marvelled at its beauty, but wondered why a brick was missing from that niche? I am like unto that one missing brick and I am the last in the line of the Prophets." (Bukhari, Kitab-ul-Manaqib). (In other words, with the advent of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) the edifice of Prophethood has been completed and there is no empty niche in this edifice to provide room for another prophet.)

·The Holy Prophet (SAW) observed: "God has bestowed upon me six favors which the former Prophets did not enjoy:

·I have been endowed with the gift of pithy and perfect speech.

·I was granted victory owing to my awe.

·The spoils of war were made lawful unto me.

·The whole earth has been made the place of worship for me and it has become the means of purification for me also. In other words in my religion, offering of prayers is not confined to certain specified places of worship. Prayers can be offered at any place over the earth. And in case water is not available it is lawful for my people to perform ablutions with earth (Tayammum) and to cleanse themselves with the soil if water for bathing is scarce.

·I have been sent by Allah to carry His Divine message to the whole world.

·And the line of prophets has come to its final end in me. (Muslim, Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah)

·The Prophet of Allah (SAW) affirmed: "The chain of Messengers and Prophets has come to an end. There shall be no Messenger nor Prophet after me." (Tirmidhi, Kitab-ur-Rouya Babu Zahab-un- Nubuwwa, Musnad Ahmad, Marwiyat-Anas bin Malik)

·The Holy Prophet  (SAW) observed: "I am Muhammad, I am Ahmad, I am the effacer and infidelity shall be erased through me; I am the assembler. People shall be assembled on Doomsday after my time. (In other words Doom is my only successor.) And I am the last in the sense that no prophet shall succeed me." (Bukhari and Muslim, Kitab-ul-Fada'il, Bab: Asmaun-Nabi; Tirmidhi, Kitab-ul- Adab, Bab: Asma-un-Nabi; Muatta', Kitab-u-Asma in-Nabi, Al- Mustadrak Hakim, Kitab-ut-Tarikh, Bab: Asma-un-Nabi.)

·The Prophet  (SAW) of Allah observed: "God Almighty hath sent unto the world no apostle who did not warn his people about the appearance of Dajjal (Anti-Christ, but Dajjal did not appear in their time). I am the last in the line of Prophets and ye are the last community of believers. Without doubt,then, Dajjal shall appear from amongst ye". (Ibn Majah, Kitabul-fitan, bab:Dajjal).

·'Abdur Rahman bin Jubair reported: "I heard Abdullah bin 'Amr ibn-'As narrating that one day the Holy Prophet (SAW) came out of his house and joined our company. His manner gave us the impression as if he were leaving us.' He said, 'I am Muhammad, the unlettered prophet of Allah' and repeated this statement three times. Then he affirmed: "There will be no prophet after me'." (Musnad Ahmad, Marwiyat'Abdullah bin Amr ibn'-As.)

·The Holy Prophet (SAW) told Hadrat 'Ali, "You are related to me as Aaron was related to Moses(peace be upon him). But no Apostle will come after me." (Bukhari and Muslim, Kitab Fada'il as-Sahaba)

·Thauban reports: "The Holy Prophet (SAW) observed: And there will arise Thirty imposters in my Ummah and each one of them will pronounce to the world that he is a prophet, but I am the last in the line of the Prophets of God and no Apostle will come after me." (Abu Dawud, Kitab-ul-Fitan)

·The Prophet (SAW) of God said: "No Prophet will come after me and there will, therefore, be no other community of followers of any new prophet." (Baihaqi,Kitab-ul Rouya; Tabarani)

·The Holy Prophet observed: "I am the last in line of the prophets of God and my Masjid is the last Masjid (referring the Holy Masjid of the Prophet)." (Muslim, Kitab-ul-Hajj; Bab:Fadl-us-Salat bi Masjidi Mecca wal Medina)

Readers will note that from these authentic AHadith, it is quite clear that there is no Prophet after Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW). However in total disregard to them, Mirza Ghulam A Qadiani claimed that he is prophet of God. This claim is obviously against preaching of Quran and by Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW).

Who will be Imam Mahdi that is predicted in the Ahadith of Holy Prophet Muhammad(SAW)?

Another claim that the founder of Ahmadiyya had put forward is that he is Imam Mahdi. Many Muslims have been trapped by this claim. Let us see what Holy Prophet Muhammad(SAW) had said about the coming of Imam Mahdi.

·The world will not come to pass until a man from among my family, whose name will be my name, rules over the Arabs. (Tirmidhi Sahih, Vol. 9, P. 74; Abu Dawud, Sahih, Vol. 5, P. 207; also narrated by Ali b. Abi Talib, Abu Sa'id, Umm Salma, Abu Hurayra)

·Allah will bring out from concealment al-Mahdi from my family and just before the day of Judgment; even if only one day were to remain in the life of the world, and he will spread on this earth justice and equity and will eradicate tyranny and oppression. (Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Vol. 1, P. 99)

·Even if only a day remains for Qiyamah to come, yet Allah will surely send a man from my family who will fill this world with such justice and fairness, just as it initially was filled with oppression.(Abu Dawood)

·The promised Mahdi will be among my family. God will make the provisions for his emergence within a single night. (Ibn Majah, Sahih, Vol. 2, P. 519)

·The promised Mahdi will be among my progeny, among the descendants of Fatima.(Abu Dawud, Sahih, Vol. 2, P. 207; Ibn Majah, Sahih, Vol. 2, P. 519)

·The Mahdi will be of my family, of the descendants of Fatima (the Prophet's daughter). (Sunan Ibn Majah, Vol. 2, Tradition No. 4086)

·Al-Mahdi is one of us, the members of the household (Ahlul-Bayt). (Sunan Ibn Majah, Vol. 2, Tradition No. 4085)

·Our Mahdi will have a broad forehead and a pointed (prominent) nose. He will fill the earth with justice as it is filled with injustice and tyranny. He will rule
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by AlHafiz B. A. Masri

Hafiz Bashir Ahmad Masri was born in 1914 in India. His father became Qadiani at the hands of Mirza Ghulam A Qadiani, the founder of Ahmadiyya Movement. He grew up a very staunch qadiani. At the tender age of 15 his encounters with Mirza Basheeruddin Mehmood, the 2nd Khalifa (successor) and son of Mirza Ghulam disillusioned him with religion, and he thought that if this is Islam he doesn’t want to have anything to do with it. He became an atheist and they left Qadian. It was only a few years later that he embraced Islam. His father however, remained an Ahmadi and joined the Lahori group. He graduated with a BA Honours degree from Govt College Lahore of the University of Punjab. He also attended the Faculty of Arabic at AlAzhar University. He is fluent in many languages including English, Classical Arabic, Urdu, Hindustani, Punjabi, Suwahili. During the 20 years he spent in East Africa, he was Headmaster of the then largest secondary school and also held secretarial and presidential posts of various religious and social organisations among the Asian, African and European Communities, including Animal Welfare. In 1961 he settled in England, where he studied Journalism and for 6 years he was the Joint Editor of the well-known Islamic Review.

Woking Mosque was built by Nawab Begum of Bhopal in later part of the last century. It had been taken over by Qadianis in 1920s. When Mr Masri arrived in England, they appointed him as its Imam in 1964, thinking that he is still a Qadiani. Thus after decades of Qadiani rule, he was the First Sunni Muslim to be appointed as the Imam of Shah Jehan Mosque, which at that time was the European Centre for Islam. On his retirement in 1968, he handed over the mosque to Muslims and spent about 3 years touring more than 40 mainly muslim countries in order to gain deeper knowledge of Islamic culture. He was well known the UK for his lectures, radio and TV broadcasts and published articles as an authority on the wider aspects of Islam. His written work includes Islamic Concern for Animals and Animals in Islam. Prior to his death in 1993 at the age of 79, AlHafiz Masri had launched an association “IMAAN” - International Muslim Association for Animals & Nature. His funeral prayers were offered in the same Woking Mosque in London.

This is a rendering of an audio recording by Mr Misri.

In the name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Beneficient

Qadianism , which is also known as Mirzaiyyat or Ahmadiyyat has become quite a serious and controversial issue these days. Throughout the world, Muslims have started campaigning against this distorted movement within Islam. Why is it so? Why has our opposition against them become so intense during recent years? I am often being asked by our young Muslims, as to why we feel so strongly against Mirzaiyyat/Ahmadiyyat, while Islam teaches tolerance and forebearance in matters of theological differances. Especially, the modern educated young muslims think, that we do not feel the same way against even those religions whose doctrines are sharply in contest to the doctrine of Islam. For example, there are religions, some of which believe in their Prophets as the sons of God, some of them worship animals, while there are others who do not believe in the very existence of God. Inspite of all such discordance in beliefs, we go on tolerating them. Such Muslims feel that we should leave the Mirzais too alone to let them follow their own path as they like. In order to understand the full implications of this and various other similar questions we shall have to dig deep into understand the true nature of this creed .

Is this movement of reform within Islam, as it claims to be? or Is it a pious fraud in the name of Islam? This audio cassette will not be enough to deal with many various aspects of this subject. What I intend doing is to treat this recording, as an introduction to this subject.

During the initial stages of this movement of Qadianism, about 100 years ago, our ulema did not get much alarmed by the falsified and decietful doctrine which this creed had started grafting into the body of Islamic Theology and Shariah under the pretext of reform. They hoped that this Corruption, this FITNA, would die its natural death, in the same way as many similar fiascoes, which had appeared in past in the name of Islam, had fizzled out of their own accord. However, as time passed on they realised that this movement was not what meets the eye and that it was much more sinister than what it appeared to be.

In due course of time it become obvious to Muslims that the Qadianis had the benevolent patronage of the British Raj. The Colonial Government in India at that time considered the Muslims a perpetual and potential threat. It was only 35 years earlier that the Muslims had carried out a near successful revolt, known in history as ‘The Mutiny of 1857’. The British administration saw in the Qadianis a useful collaborator in distrupting the established doctorinal framework of Islam and started aiding and abetting them. It is under such cir*****stances that we see in the Qadianis literature volumes of publication preaching loyalty to the British Government. They even went so far as to declare that allegiance to the British Sovereign was a religious obligation of the Muslim Indians. In support of this Diction or ‘Fatwa’ they cited the verse of Holy Quran, commanding us to obey those who had being entrusted with authority over us, meaning the British Government. However, while quoting these verses they conveniently omitted the proviso laid down by Quran-e-Majeed that the rulers should be from amongst us that is they should be Muslims.

It was not only during those early day, that the Qadianism started playing the role of Henchmen of the Colonial Power. Right throughout their history of 100 years, they had been secretly joining forces with the enemies of Islam. It is an open secret now that in the current international struggle of power politics, especially in the Middle East, they offered their mercenary services to the open enemies of the Muslim Nations.

Some of our people become impressed by the apparent organisation of this cult and by their exaggerated claims of success in opening up their mission houses in various parts of the world. Little do they know that these are in reality spy centers in the guise of ‘da’awa (Tabigh) missions’. For that matter, even the Qadiani public doesn’t know what is going on behind the scenes. They are given the impression that all this progress is being made possible by their donations. While the fact is that large sums of money are being paid to the Qadiani Establishment by those countries, whose political and economic interests are at stake in these Islamic countries. Such enemies of Islam have found in Qadianis willing partisans and useful spies. It makes it much easier and safer for the Qadianis/Ahmadis to work as such, for the simple reason that they are functioning under the garb of Islam and are accepted by the non-Muslims as a sect within Islam.

Have you ever wondered, why it is that for the last some years, it has become so easy for Qadianis/Ahmadis to migrate to European Countries and America, while the immigration restrictions for others are becoming more and more stringent?

I have mentioned earlier that the Muslim conflict with this creed is mainly because of their hypocritical claim of being muslims. Let me assure you, that it is not because of intolerance or false dogmatism. Let these people declare themselves as A New Religion, Out of the Pale of Islam and we shall start treating them the same as we treat all the other religions.We do have our doctorinal differences with other religions. Inspite of the fact that some of those differances are fundamental, we always try to sort them out with the good grace through amicable debate. We cannot, however, take it lying down when an imposter, shamming to be one of us, start misrepresenting very fundamental articles of our faith.

Where is the Original Baith form ? - A question for Qadianis / Ahmadis / Lahoris
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Bismillah Al-Rehman Al-Raheem

Anti Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam 13th July 2001    

Where is the original baith form?

by Syed Rashid Ali


To Qadiani/Ahmadi/Lahori readers:

Following is the image capture one of the Qadiani website, which displays the conditions of initiation (baith) which have been originally laid down by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani.


However if we scan the books of Mirza, we find the following:

(Roohani Khazain vol. 13 p. 13)

Now let translate the underlined portion of this page:

".... and as I have earlier instructed in the 4th condition of initiation to practice true well-wishing of the English Government and true sympathy of the humanity ...."

Can any Qadiani/Ahmadi/Lahori explained what happened to this 4th condition of initiation? Where is the original baith form that was issued by Mirza? Who removed this condition and why?

Wassalam on those who follow the hidayah

Dr. Syed Rashid Ali. rasyed@emirates.net.ae

Further reading: Henchman of Europe


Where is the grave of Jesus ? Al-Khalil ? Al-Quds? Kashmir ? - A question for Qa
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Bismillah al-Rehman al-Raheem

Anti Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam 8th August 2001    

Where is the Grave of Jesus? Question for Ahmadis!!

by Dr. Rashid

Dear Qadiani/Ahmadi Readers!

Peace be on those who follow the hidayah

Mirza Gulam Ahmad Qadiani, the founder of Ahmadiyya Movement claimed:

"God has revealved to me in his special inspiration that Maseeh ibne Maryam is dead." (Tauzeeh-e-Maram, Roohani Khazain vol 3 p.402) "I have been informed about the grave of Eisa (in Kashmir). And I have been informed by Holy Quran and God's Revelation to me about the Death of Jesus." (Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.358, 361)

Is this the tomb of Jesus?

"Tomb of Christ" (7/24) At the very center of Christianity, a mystery as old as the Christian faith is closer to being solved. An archaeological team from Oxford University has been hard at work attempting to prove that Jerusalem's Church of the Holy Sepulchre is the actual location of Christ's burial. After a decade, Martin Biddle and his wife, Birthe KjØlbye-Biddle, have unearthed the remains of earlier structures on the site and an original rock-cut tomb hidden within the walls of the present 19th-century edicule, or "little house." Believed to mark the site of Christ's tomb, the edicule has never, until now, been subject to any form of archaeological study or scientific investigation. http://www.pbs.org/whatson/press/jul01/secretsofdead.html  

What would you say to this?

Or is the Tomb of Jesus in Kashmir?

Another website called 'Tomb of Jesus' goes to extreme length to prove that Tomb of Jesus is in Kashmir. Although the owner of website (Tombmaster) denies that he belong to any religious group, but soon the cat comes out of the bag when the owner of this website confesses on Ahmadi forums that he is Ahmadi and is very close to Mirza Tahir, the Qadiani Khalifa. He writes:

"After surviving the crucifixion, Jesus Christ arrived in Kashmir, where he took up residence for the remainder of his life. There he ministered to Israelite tribes of the area, continuing to preach. He eventually married a woman named Maryan, who bore him children, and, so the theory states, he died at the age of 120 years. His tomb [see picture of his tomb on our home page] is located in the Mohala Kan Yar district of the capital city of Srinagar, Jammu & Kashmir, Northern India, and is called the Roza Bal ("The Site of the Honored Tomb")." (http://www.tombofjesus.com/Welcomeall.htm)

Tombmaster further adds:

"This site, and the information it contains, is NOT the property of any particular belief or ism or organization, nor is the idea of a post-crucifixion life of Jesus the invention of any ONE individual." (http://www.tombofjesus.com/Welcomeall.htm)    

But he confessed in other places his religious affliation:

"It is SHAMEFUL that a man who claims to have been BORN an Ahmadi DOES NOT see the significance of Imam Mahdi! If that's what it means to be born an Ahmadi, THEN I AM GLAD that I was not born one, and that I converted LATER!!"  (source: posting of 9/9/2000 on Lahore Ahmadiyya Message Board)

"Because I just happen to believe like the Ahmadis believe: That Hazrat Ahmad was a *true* prophet of God who cannot be placed in such categories." (source: posting of 02/11/2000 on Lahore Ahmadiyya Message Board)    

"Let us "suppose" that I am a black Ahmadiyya. What the HELL do I CARE what some Punjabi Pakistan feels about me? I created my website, for instance, WITHOUT their help OR permission. And the Ahmadiyyan leader (or so I hear) has lent his personal approval to the website." (source= posting of 6/6/2000 on Lahore Ahmadiyya Message Board)

Now the cat is out of the bag. Anyway....

All Qadiani followers (Lahori as well as Qadianis) believe that Jesus Christ (Hazrat Eisa Ibne Maryam AS) died and buried in Kashmir. What is the basis for this belief? Of course, because your founder, your prophet, your promised messiah, your imam mahdi etc. etc. Mirza Ghulam A Qadiani, said so. Am I right?

Tombmaster says:

"The significance of Hazrat Ahmad is very clear, and is also admitted by anybody who reads about and understands the history of the theory of a post-crucifixion life of Jesus: Hazrat Ahmad is the recognized *first* person who presented a coherent and unified exposition of this theory. Every Jesus-in-India writer recognizes this. He uncovered the works of Mulla Nadri and others; he used his powerful spiritual AND rational gifts, collecting information from Muslim, Hindu, Buddhists and other sources, including medical books of history, oral history, written history, etc., and he pulled this all together in book form and in a coherent manner. *Nobody* in human history had done that before him. This is why he is entitled to be recognized as that person who the Prophet Muhammad stated would "break the cross."" (source: posting of 9/9/2000 on Lahore Ahmadiyya Message Board)

Has any Qadiani ever analysed the writings of Mirza Ghulam, to know what exactly he had written about the site of burial of Jesus? I am sure none of you had done that, and if you have then they are all accessory to a massive deception campaign, or else delibrately avoiding to face the truth.

Now let me tell you what I discovered in the writings of Mirza Ghulam. You are of course free to agree or disagree with me, but please, please, only after you have verified the quotes that I have given. My task is nothing but to convey the message, after that it is between you and Allah.

In his various books, Mirza Ghulam A. Qadiani, had given three different locations for the Grave of Jesus. Which one is correct?

1.    Jesus AS buried in Al-Khaleeli (Gulailee).

In 1891 Mirza wrote a huge volume, Izala Auham, which ran upto 948 pages. In the second volume of this book, he wrote a detailed, mind boggling explanation trying to prove that Jesus was not taken physically to heavens (as the Muslims believe), but that he was taken down from the cross, went to his native place, Al-Khalil, died and buried there. He writes:

"This is true that Maseeh went to his native place, and died there, but this is not true that the same body which was buried, became alive again..... verse 3 chapter I of Acts is a testimony about the natural death of Jesus that took place in Al-Khaleeli. After this death, Maseeh was visible to his students as KASHF (vision) for 40 days." (Izala-e-Auham, Roohani Khazain vol.3 p.353-354)  

1.    Grave of Jesus in Quds

However, 3 years later, in 1894, Mirza changed his story. In his other book, Atmam-e-Hujjat (Roohani Khazain volume 8) he once again tried to prove that Eisa Ibne Maryam AS is dead. In an attempt to prove that, he gave the testimony of one of his rare Arab Disciple, Molvi Mohammed Al-Saeedi Trabilisi Al-Shaami. He wrote:

"This has to be admitted that Hazrat Eisa is also dead, and interestingly enough the grave of Hazrat Eisa is also in Syria and for further clarity, in the footnote, I include the testimony of My brother, My lover in Allah, Molvi Mohammad Al-Saeedi Trablisi. He is a resident of Tripoli, in the Country of Syria and in his area is the Grave of Hazrat Essa AS (Jesus). If you say that Grave is a fake, then you must provide the proof of this fake, and prove that when this fraud took place. And in this event we will not be sure about the graves of any prophet and trust will be lost, and we will have to say that all those burial places are fake." (Atmam E Hujat, Page: 18-19, Roohani Khazain vol.8 p.296-297, dated 1894)

Letter of Molvi Mohammed Al-Saeedi Trabilisi:

"O Hazrat Maulana & My Imam. Assalamo alaikum wa rehmatullah wa barakaatohu. I pray that may Allah give you cure (I recieved this letter of Shaami Saheb during my illness) Whatever you have asked about the Grave of Eisa alaihe assalam and other events, thus I am writing to you in detail, and that is this: Hazrat Eisa alaih assalam was born in Bait-ul-Lehm and between Bait-ul-Lehm and Quds there is a distance of thirty miles and the Grave of Hazrat Eisa alaihe assalam is in the Country of Quds, and is present till now, and there is a Church built on it, and that church is the largest church of all churches, and inside it is the Grave of Hazrat Eisa and in the same church is the Grave of Maryam, the truthful. And both graves are separate." (Atmam-ul-Hujjat, Roohani Khazain vol.8 p.299)

That seems to settle the matter. As far as Mirza Saheb was concerned, Jesus was dead and his grave was in al-Quds.

1.    Jesus' Grave in Kashmir: However 8 years later, Mirza changed the story once again. Now he started propagating his new theory: Jesus is buried in Kashmir.

"It is proved with certianity that Essa AS (Jesus) migrated to Kashmir. After this Allah liberated him with his blessing and he kept on living there for a long time until he died and was included among the deads. And his burial place is still in the city of Srinagar (Tomb of Yus Asif)" (Al-Huda, 12 June 1902, Page 109)

"I have been informed about the grave of Eisa (in Kashmir)." (Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.358, 361)

"The grave of Jesus is in Kashmir." (Roohani Khazain vol 18 p. 320, Nuzool-e-Maseeh, printed in 1909, after the death of Mirza)

So now we have three different statements of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani regarding the grave of Jesus. My question to Qadianis is which is the correct one? Al-Khalil or Quds or Kashmir?

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Sahib had at least one good quality: He did not run away from arguments. I only wish he was alive today so I could point out these contradictions and put my questions to him. Today his followers, including the present Khalifa Mirza Tahir Ahmad and all Qadianis/Ahmadis, do not take part in discussions any more. They run away like deer runs away from lion. The ONLY MAN who might have been bold enough to stand up and face these arguments and possibly renounce his false claim would have been Mirza Ghulam Ahmad himself. However let us try to do what we can in his absence. Some day some Ahmadis may finally see the light.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian claimed to be Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah, Two in One. It is an accepted Muslim Doctrine that Hazrat Isa (Jesus) pbuh will descend from Heavens and will help Imam Mahdi in the propagation of Islam and fill the world with Justice. When people asked Mirza Ghulam about Jesus son of Mary, Mirza Saheb replied that Jesus will not descend from heavens because he never went to heavens; rather he went to Kashmir where he died at the age of 120. To prove his point, he wrote a book called 'Messiah in India (Maseeh in Hindustan)'.

Quran says celibacy not prescribed in Christianity, BUT Mirza Sahib says the opposite:

In the same book, Mirza Ghulam tried to make his reader believe that many of the things mentioned in 'INJEEL' are also mentioned in the Buddhist literature. From this he concludes that Hazrat Isa pbuh came to India and preached the same doctrines which he had taught to Christians. Buddhists accepted his preachings, wrote them in their books and ascribed them to Buddha.

Mirza Saheb says:

"And just as Injeel has preached Celibacy, similarly in Buddha's teachings it is desired; and just as an earthquake came on putting the Jesus to the cross, similarly it is written that an earthquake came on the death of Buddha. Thus the main reason for all such similarities is that out of good fortune for the Buddhists, Maseeh came to Hindustan and stayed for a long time amongst Buddhists and they recieved detailed knowledge on his life and His preachings. Consequently it was inevitable that a great part of that teaching and ceremonials should have found its way into Buddhists records for Jesus was respected and taken for the Buddha by the Buddhists. These people therefore recorded his sayings in their books and ascribed them to the Buddha." (Maseeh Hindustan Mein, Roohani Khazain vol.15 p.78)

On the other hand Holy Quran says (57:27) that monasticism was invented by Christians. Monasticism includes all ways of detaching oneself from mankind, specially state of celibacy :

"Then We caused Our messengers to follow in their footsteps; and We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow, and gave him the Gospel, and placed compassion and mercy in the hearts of those who followed him. But monasticism they invented - We ordained it not for them - only seeking Allah's pleasure, and they observed it not with right observance. So We give those of them who believe their reward, but many of them are evil-livers." (al-Quran 57:27)

But contrary to this verse, Mirza Sahib says that Hazrat Isa (pbuh) preached the doctrine of Chastity and Celibacy. Who is to be believed? Holy Quran or the word of Mirza Ghulam?

Hazrat Isa pbuh - Prophet for Bani Israel or Prophet for Buddhists?

Allah had sent Hazrat Isa (pbuh) to guide the Children of Israel BUT Mirza Sahib sent Him to the followers of Buddha. Majority of the followers of Buddha were non-Israelites. Mirza Sahib says that Buddha got Ilham from Allah (Divine Revelation) to forecast the coming of Hazrat Isa (PBUH) 500 years later to give new life to Buddhism.

"After recieving the revelation from God, Buddha gave his followers this hope that Bagwa Metreya will come to their land. Thus any Buddhist who is aware of this prophecy cannot deny the fact that the Bagwa Maiterya, whose other name was Maseeh came to this land, because the failure of a prophecy makes that religion bogus." (Maseeh in Hindustan, Roohani Khazain vol 15 p.84)

"Every Buddhist must necessarily profess the belief that five hundred years after the Buddha, the Bagwa (white) Maitreya did appear in their land." (Maseeh in Hindustan, Roohani Khazain vol.15 p.92)

"There can be no doubt that He came in the colours of Buddha and the Book of Oldenburg with reference to Buddha's Book, Lkavati Sutta, it is written that the followers of Buddha used to console themselves with the hope of future that they will achieve the fruits of salvation by becoming the follower of Maitreya. i.e. they had confidence that Maitreya will appear among them and they will attain salvation through him, because the words in which Buddha had given them the hope of Maitreya they were clearly proving that his followers will meet Maitreya. Now with this statement of this book, confidence is generated in the heart that God had created means of their guidance from both sides . . . . and no one can doubt that those moral teachings and spiritual ways which were established by Buddha, the teachings of Hazrat Maseeh have regenerated them in this world." (Maseeh in India, Roohani Khazain vol.15 pp. 81-82)

How could Hazrat Isa (pbuh ) go to preach among non-Bani Israel on the basis of divine revelation of Buddha? Is this not AGAINST OUR AND YOUR FAITH which states that Hazrat Isa (PBUH) was sent to Bani Israel only? To further clarify that Hazrat Isa (pbuh) went to all Buddhists whether they were Israelites or not, Mirza Sahib quotes Buddha as saying that Hazrat Isa (pbuh) will come from outside to the land of Prophecy, Magadh, in which the people were dark. And Buddha himself was dark. And SINCE ALL THE BUDDHISTS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS PROPHECY, COMMON SENSE SAYS THAT NON ISRAELITES ARE ALSO INCLUDED, SINCE ALL BUDDHISTS WERE NOT ISRAELITES.

Another Hypocricy of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

A very interesting point to note is that when Mirza Sahib speaks of Hazrat Isa (pbuh) he says peace be upon him, BUT IN THE VERY SAME SENTENCE he forgets to says peace be upon Buddha. Reason? Probably Mirza Sahib himself did not believe deep down in his heart that Buddha was a messenger as well like Hazrat Isa(pbuh) :

"With reference to the similarity in titles, it is enough to point out, that if for example, Jesus (on whom be peace) calls himself the "Light" in his teachings, so, Gautama has been named the Buddha which in Sanskrit means "light". (Maseeh in Hindustan, Roohani Khazain vol.15 p.81)



Gospel of Barnabas and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's Ignorance

Gospel of Barnabas is widely available. Although it is not included in the New Testament but it is undoubtedly an ancient book. During the last 1600 years it had been anathematized and then later forced out of circulation for its alleged heresy. This Gospel contains statements which contradict modern day Christian beliefs. For example it is stated that Jesus was neither crucified, nor did he die on the Cross. Barnabas was an Apostle of Jesus Christ.

Mirza Sahib says:

"After all that has been stated, it should be kept in mind that the Gospel of Barnabas, which must be available in the British Museum, it is stated that Jessu was not crucified nor did he die on the Cross. Now we can very well say though this book is not included in the Gospels and has been rejected summarily, yet there is no doubt that it is an ancient book and it belongs to the period in which the other Gospels were written. Is it not open to us to regard this ancient book as a book of history of ancient times and make use of it as a book of history?"   (Masseh in Hindustan, Roohani Khazain vol.15 p.21)

PERHAPS MIRZA SAHIB DID NOT READ THE GOSPEL OF BARNABAS HIMSELF, for in the Bible of Barnabas it is clearly mentioned that Hazrat Muhammad (SAAW) will be the last Prophet, and only false Prophets will come after him.Please see the following extract from the Bible of Barnabas:

"Isa (pbuh) said in that Messenger's coming who will wipe out all false ideas about me. His religion will spread all over the earth . Sardar Kahin asked: After the coming of the Messenger of God will more Prophets come ? Isa(mph) said: After him not true Prophet will come. But many false Prophets will come." (Gospel of Barnabas, Urdu Edition p.143)

"Then the disciples asked: O Master, who is that man who you mention will come to earth? With great happiness Isa (pbuh) replied: He is Muhammad (SAAW), Messenger of God. When he will come, just as rain brings out fruits from earth when there has been no rain for a long time, in the same way with the unlimited Mercy and Blessings with which he will come, he will be the cause of many good and virtuous deeds."(Gospel of Barnabas p.228, Urdu version)

Mirza Sahib admits that the Gospel of Barnabas is an ancient historical do*****ent, written at the same time as other Gospels. He presents one of its statements to support his claim. But what he didn't know was that it not only mentions the coming of Hazrat Muhammad (SAAW) but also the finality of his Prophethood or did he? If he had, what right did Mirza Ghulam has to claim that he is a Prophet? Why did he take one statement as a proof and ignored the other one. Perhaps he had never read the Gospel!

Is Adam (pbuh) still alive? Did Mirza Saheb die at the age of 30?

Mirza Basheeruddin Mehmood, son of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and the 2nd Khalifa of Qadian, wrote a book called Da'awat-ul-Ameer (Invitation of Ameer). Following is a quotation from this book.

"There is another important statement by the Holy Prophet. During his last illness, the Holy Prophet said to his daughter Fatima:   'Once a year Gabriel used to recite the Quran to me. This year he recited twice. He also told me that every succeeding Prophet has lived upto half the age of his predecessor. He told me that Jesus, son of Mary, lived to 120 years. Therefore, I think, I may live to about 60 years.'   The statement is an inspired one. The Holy Prophet does not say anything on his own but reports what he received from Gabriel, the angel of revelation. The important part of the statement is that Jesus lived to 120 years. According to the New Testament records, Jesus was about 32 or 33 years old when the event of the Cross took place and Jesus "ascended " to Heaven. If Jesus has really 'ascended' his age up to the time of the Holy Prophet comes to about 600 years, not 120. If what Gabriel told Holy Prophet is true, then Holy Prophet should have lived for at least 300 years. But he lived only for 63 years. Yet, according to Gabriel Jesus lived for 120 years. This important statement by the Holy Prophet proves that to think that Jesus is alive is against the teaching of Holy Prophet, against what was revealed to him by God. In view of all this, how can we be persuaded to believe that Jesus is alive? How can we deny anything which the Holy Prophet has taught so clearly?" (Invitation to Ahmadiyyat or Da'awat-ul-Ameer, p.17)

Now in the light of above statement, if what Mirza Basheer has written is true then let us very quickly calculate the age of some Prophets. Although there have been 124,000 of them, we will just take a few famous ones. We come to the following conclusion:-

Hazrat Adam (pbuh)       122880 years oldHazrat Seth (pbuh)         61440 years oldHazrat Noah (pbuh)           30720 years oldHazrat Abraham (pbuh)    15360 years oldHazrat Ishmael (pbuh)          7680 years oldHazrat Jacob (pbuh)        3840 years oldHazrat Joseph (pbuh)          1920 years oldHazrat Moses (pbuh)            960 years oldHazrat David (pbuh)        480 years oldHazrat Solomon (pbuh)        240 years oldHazrat Jesus (pbuh)              &   120 years oldHazrat Muhammad (pbuh)     60 years old

Based on this formula, some of the future prophets ( if at all there are some, and there should be at least three of them if you accept the Qadiani interpretation of the verse of KhatmeNabuwwat) will have following ages:

Mirza Ghulam A. Qadiani ??? 30 years old?????? Next Prophet would 15 years old?????? And the prophet after that 7 and half years old . . . and so on.

So according to the extract on page 5 taken from "Invitation to Ahmadiyyat" Hazrat Adam (mph) should have lived upto 122880 years. which means that he is still alive. In fact even Hazrat Shees, Nuh, Ibrahim and Ismail (pt) should all be alive now. FURTHER, if Mirza Sahib is a prophet, he should have died at the age of 30 only, that is half the age of the previous Prophet. Did Mirza Sahib become Prophet after his death? Still more interesting, if Prophets will continue to come, then just a few Prophets down the line we would be having one who is a NEWBORN!! This statement of the Holy Prophet (SAAW), if at all authentic, clearly means that there will no Prophet after Hazrat Mohammad (SAW) because the next Prophet will have to die at the age of 30 and the next at 15 which means he will not even be an adult.

Lo! herein is indeed a lesson for those who see. (alQuran 24:44)


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When Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, founder of Ahmadiyya Movement claimed to be the Promised Messiah and Mehdi, he was reminded about the return of Hazrat Isa ibne Maryam (Jesus Christ) from Heavens. According to Muslim faith, Hazrat Isa (Jesus) will descend from Heavens in Damascus and alongwith Imam Mahdi will work for the propagation of Islam. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad denied the truthfulness of such Muslim faith.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad rejected the fundamental Muslim doctrine of Second coming of Hazrat Isa ibne Maryam. Rather he said that Hazrat Isa has died his natural death and even located his grave in Khanyar Street, Srinagar, Kashmir. Mirza Sahib wrote a book "Jesus in India" where he gave a detailed account of what had actually happened at the Cross. According to him Jesus was put to the Cross by the Jews on Friday; Jesus fainted and jews thought that He is dead. He was buried but three days later He regained conciousness and came out of the grave. He was 33 years old at that time. He met His disciples and secretly migrated to India. where he died at the age of 120 years. Let us have a look at the following extracts from this book :

"Hence, I shall prove in this book that Jesus (Peace be upon him) did not die on the Cross either did he go up to the Heavens nor it should ever be hoped that he will return to the earth from the Heavens; rather, he died at the age of 120 years in Srinagar in Kashmir, and his grave is in the Khanyar Region of Srinagar." (Maseeh Hindustan Mein, Roohani Khazain vol.15 p. 14) "Authentic narrations of Hadith prove that our Holy Prophet (pbuh) said that Maseeh lived upto the age of 120 years. And this is ACCEPTED by ALL THE SECTS of ISLAM that in the person of Jesus two such qualities were combined which were not present in any other Prophet. Firstly, that HE LIVED HIS FULL LIFE i.e. he was alive for 125 years. Secondly, He toured most of the parts of the world . . . . . now it is obvious if he had ascended to Heavens at the age of only 33 years, then the Tradition of 125 years would not have been correct, neither he could have toured at such a young age of 33. These Traditions are not only mentioned in the authentic and ancient books of Hadith, but they are so popular among all the sects of Muslims that none can be imagined more famous." (Maseeh Hindustan Mein {Messiah in India}, Roohani Khazain vol.15 pp. 55-56)

Christian Era (AD) begins with the birth of Hazrat Isa ibne Maryam (Jesus) in 1 AD. Hazrat Isa according to Mirza Sahib died at the age of 120 years, meaning 120 AD. Now let us examine the following extract from "Anjam-e-Atham" written by Mirza Sahib:

"The Holy Quran clearly says that the Masih was lifted to the heavens after his death. Therefore his descent is symbolic and not real. And in the verse 'Falamma Tawaffeteni' it has been clearly manifested that death of Hazrat Isa (pbuh) has already taken place. Because the meaning of the verse is that the Christians will go astray after the death of Hazrat Isa (pbuh) and not during his lifetime. So if we assume that Hazrat Isa (pbuh) is not yet dead, then we will have to agree that the Christians are not yet digressed, and this is absolutely false. Rather the verse is saying that the Christians remained faithful only until the life-time of Hazrat Isa (pbuh). From this it becomes known that corruption had already begun during the time of Disciples. If the period of the Disciples had been such that the Christians had still been on right path, then in this verse Allah would not have linked it with the life-time of Hazrat Isa(pbuh) only, but would have included the life time of the Disciples as well. Thus at this juncture a very good point of the period of corruption in Christianity is illustrated and which is that IN TRUTH, during the time of the Disciples itself, the seeds of SHIRK (associating partner with God) were sown in Christianity. (Anjam-e-Atham, Roohani Khazain vol.11 p.321)


Mirza Saheb gives prove from Hadith that Hazrat Isa died at the age of 125.The Christians were on right path only during the life time of Hazrat Isa.He was not made God or son of God during his life time.Seeds of SHIRK (Trinity) were sown after the death of Hazrat Isa. Till the life time of Hazrat Isa there is no possibility of such a digression. Mirza Ghulam is quoting the verse "Falamma Tawaffeteni" (5:117) from Quran implying that Allah is guaranteeing protection of such corruption during the life of Hazrat Isa only.Since Mirza Sahib has stated in his book "Jesus in India" that Hazrat Isa died in 120 AD, therefore sowing the seeds of Association of Partners with Allah (i.e. Trinity) could not have take place before 120 AD. This means that Hazrat Isa was made God and son of God only after 120 A.D. Before 120 A.D. not even one man can have this faith that Hazrat Isa is God or son of God.Thus the year of 120 A.D. became a turning point.

Now let us examine some extracts from Another book of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Chashma-e-Masihi (Roohani Khazain volume 20):  

"All the bad things were introduced in this religion (Christianity) by Paul. Hazrat Isa was such an unselfish person that He did not even want anyone to call him a pious man but Paul made him God."(Chashma-e-Maseehi, Roohani Khazain vol.20 p.375) "And in the very first instance, he (Paul) implanted the bad seedling of Trinity in Damascus. And this Pauline Trinity started from Damascus. It is towards this that Hadith Shareef has hinted that the future Maseeh will descend on the eastern side of Damascus." (Chashma-e-Maseehi, Roohani Khazain vol.20 p.377)

In this book, Chasma-e-Masihi, Mirza Sahib has clearly stated that St. Paul was responsible for the doctrine of Holy Trinity and thus turning Hazrat Isa into God. It is a well known fact that St. Paul died in 64 AD or 67 AD. 'The 100' gives the year of his death as 64 AD. Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics says:

"That he suffered martyrdom at Rome there can be no doubt. . . . the date will lie between A.D. 64 and 67, most probably nearer the former than the later limit." (Encyclopedia vol.9 p. 694)


1.    In the book "Jesus in India" Mirza Sahib proved that Hazrat Isa died in 120 AD.

2.    In the book "Anjam -e-Atham" , Mirza Sahib has clearly stated that the seeds of Trinity were not sown until 120 A.D.

3.    In the book "Anjam -e-Atham" , Mirza Sahib has clearly said that St. Paul made Hazrat Isa God.

4.    Paul died in 64 or 65 A.D. where as Hazrat Isa died in 120 A.D. Therefore Paul died at least 55 years before Hazrat Isa.

5.    Since Paul must have given the doctrine of Trinity during his life time, this means that Hazrat Isa was made God at least 55 years before His own death. In other words by 65 A.D. Hazrat Isa was made God/Son of God while he died 55 years later in 120 A.D.

6.    While he (Jesus) was alive in Kashmir, he was being worshipped as God in Palestine.

7.    Thus Mirza Sahib's commentary on Holy Quran's verse 5:117 (Falamma Tawaffetenni) in his book "Anjam-e-Atham" that Christians made Hazrat Isa God after the death of Hazrat Isa in 120 A.D. becomes absolutely wrong.

Is this a small mistake for a man claiming to have been divinely ordained to be a Messiah, a Mahdi and a Prophet? Such grevious error? So obviously and utterly wrong! So conclusively wrong!

If Mirza Sahib were alive and this question had been put to him, could he have said: "I am a human being and I can make mistakes". Mirza Sahib had claimed help of Allah in these arguments. Can Allah be wrong? No! only the claim of Mirza Sahib is wrong. If he can be wrong in one thing, what proof is there that he is not wrong in other things. The idea of this whole exercise of trying to prove that Hazrat Isa (pbuh) is dead was to establish his claim of being the Promised Messiah and Mahdi. His argument is that since Hazrat Isa is dead he will not return, because it is against the principals of Allah. Someone else will take up the role of Hazrat Isa and that someone is Mirza Saheb himself. Above arguments prove conclusively that he (Mirza Ghulam) could not sustain his claim of being Imam Mahdi and the Promised Messiah. Therefore he is not Imam Mahdi and the Promised Messiah. As a corollary he is not a Prophet, because a true Prophet will not make a false claim. Q.E.D.



It is written by Qadianis in Tafseer of Quran Majeed that Hazrat Isa kept a careful watch over his followers as long as he was alive. Did he really keep a careful watch as long as he was alive specially in Palestine and Rome were Paul made him God and son of God? According to Mirza Sahib, Hazrat Isa at the age of 33 was put on the Cross after which he fled Palestine for good. HE SECRETLY MIGRATED TO INDIA and remained alive for 87 more years and died at the age of 120 in Srinagar, Kashmir. He kept no contact with the people of Palestine for these 87 years. People in Palestine did not know that Hazrat Isa was alive in Kashmir and Hazrat Isa did not know that the people in Palestine had begun to worship him as God and son of God. Therefore in the original land where he was sent as Messenger (Palestine) and where he was made God/son of God, he kept careful watch only till the age of 33 and for the remaining 87 years of his life he kept no watch over them at all. What a glaring mistake!

Remember: All this is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani's assertions and we have only his words for them. WILL THE QADIANIS, HIS Followers, KINDLY CLARIFY THE ABOVE POINTS OR RECTIFY THEIR BELIEF?

May Allah help them to understand what is right and what is wrong and give them the courge to follow the right path. Ameen.

All praise to Allah. His Love and Peace be upon His Noble Prophet, Hazrat Muhammad and upon His family and Companions..





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by Illias Sattar

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's claims of Imam Mehdi and Promised Messiah HAVE NOW BEEN PROVED CONCLUSIVELY FALSE.

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Introductory Note

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian, India, claimed that he is Promised Messiah/Mahdi. He established Ahmadiyya Movement in 1891 and started propagating his fraudulent doctrine in the name of Islam. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad died Ahmadis (Qadianis) have always been very aggressive in their preaching whereas Muslims have been keeping themselves aloof or are very meek in their defense. But now by the Grace of Allah the position is reverse. The Qadianis are shying away from limelight. AlHamdolillah they have been intellectually defeated. A Prominent Ahmadi, Mr. Ahmad Baksh Channa, a Qadiani Murabbi for years, has embraced Islam alongwith other several others who witnessed the written debate.

In the following article, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani's claim of being the Mahdi and the Promised Messiah have been conclusively proved to be wrong by bringing to light contradiction in his own argument from his books. The particular argument of Mirza Sahib which was claimed to be dazzling like the sun, and according to his followers made his opponents ran away from him like lambs run away from lion, has been proven wrong beyond doubt. Since the fallacy of these claims have been exposed, Mirza Sahib's claim of being a Nabi or a Prophet also automatically becomes bogus. A True Nabi cannot make false claim.

This article was originally made public before 1982. More than 14 years have passed but no one has been able to deny the points of this article or prove to the contrary. The points of this article were twice put to the present IVth Khalifa, Mirza Tahir Ahmad Qadiani but he maintained complete silence. I even went inside the Ahmadiyya Hall, an Ahmadi Mosque in Magazine Line, Karachi where I distributed this article in the hall and spoke to those who were coming inside to pray. I attended the funeral of one learned Qadiani. In the graveyard as well as in the funeral bus while coming back, I explained the article to them. On 4-7-1983 Mr. Rahim Younus Qadiani wrote from Dhaka, Bangladesh, that one learned Ahmadi is going to answer to me. Almost 13 years have passed away but till now there is no answer. Naseem Ahmad, gave a reply to "Can Ahmadis Answer" and entitled it, "An Ahmadi Answer". The grandson of the Khalifa Mirza Tahir, Mubasshir Ahmad composed it on the computer. However, later on after nearly 5 hours of discussions the grandson said that now only he has understood the question. He promised to return with proper reply. He went away never to return again.

I have had written discussions with many other Qadianis as well. Those who are interested can get copies of such correspondence from me. It is interesting to see how they have expressed views opposite to what Mirza Sahib has written. Many Qadianis have even admitted that Mirza Sahib has made a mistake, but they take the plea that Mirza Sahib was a human being and so he could make a mistake. However, time will make them realize InshaAllah that it wasn't a small mistake. This grave mistake was committed while trying to prove his claims to the office of Imam Mehdi and Promised Messiah. If the arguments put forward to prove his claim has been proven wrong, naturally the claim was also wrong. If one claim is wrong the whole Ahmadiyyat becomes a heap of debris.

I had offered Rs. One Crore (10,000,000 =~ US$ 200,000) to any Ahmadi who will defeat me in a Supreme Court of any country. One Ahmadi, Naseem Ahmad of Karachi, Pakistan, now in USA, accused me that One Crore will not be paid if I will loose the case. I said that the Judges will be satisfied about the payment of Rs. One Crore before the start of the case. He said that to start the case. Rs 15,000/= cash will be needed. I even offered Rs. 15,000/= in advance which he refused to accept. Did he knew in his heart that he will be a loser? I think he did, because he never returned to accept my offer.

The facts mentioned in this article, which have embarassed Qadianis during the discussions, are taken from the following four books of Mirza Sahib:

1.    Masih Hindustan Mein

2.    Chasma-e-Masihi

3.    Anjam-e-Atham

4.    Kashti-e-Nuh

An interesting development is that the present Khalifa of Qadianis has warned his followers about me. He spoke for more than two hours on their so-called Muslim Television Ahmadiyya and cautioned the Qadianis that a "Fitna" (temptation) is going to come, and to save the faith from that "fitna" (temptation). He reminded his followers of miracles which were to be remembered when facing the "fitna" (temptation) mentioning Zia ul Haq's plane accident and claimed that this accident happened to Zia ul Haq because of what he had done to the Qadianis.

Obviously it is an intellectual defeat for the Khalifa and the whole Ahmadiyya Community. Instead of coming up with logical arguments to counteract my proofs, the Khalifa has taken refuge in so-called miracles. Miracles or perhaps some Accident? God knows best. I am producing this article here with a challenge to all Qadianis/Ahmadis. Try to prove my arguments wrong in a Court of Law and get Pak. Rs.10,000,000/=

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Rs. 500,000 (approx US$ 10,000) reward for Qadianis
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For Ahmadis Qadianis Attention

Anti Ahmadiyya

Movement in Islam 1st July 2000

Bismillah al-Rehman al-Rehman

Truth came and falsehood perish; falsehood was bound to perish

Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW said: The Mahdi will be of my family, of the descendants of Fatimah. (Abu Dawood)

Any Qadiani/Ahmadi who prove these quotations wrong a Reward of Rs. 500,000 is offered by Dr. Syed Rashid Ali & (Ex-Ahmadi) Ahtesham-ul-Haq Abdul Bari of Anti Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam

Dear Qadiani/Ahmadi Friends!

Is it not your faith that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani is a truthful person? .... of course it is.

Is it not your faith that Mirza Ghulam A Qadiani is the Imam Mahdi whose advent was foretold by Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW? .... of course it is.

Is it not your faith that Mirza Ghulam A Qadiani's are free of lies and contradictions? .... of course it is.

Do you not have faith in the following writings of Mirza Ghulam?

"The writings of a truthful, intelligent and clear-hearted person never contains contradictions. Yes if someone is mental and lunatic or is such a hypocrite that just to flatter he agrees thoughtlessly, his writings would without doubt become contradictory." (Sat Bachan, Roohani Khazain vol.10, p.142)

"Any wise and mentally normal person will never contain such two different beliefs." (Izala-e-Auham, Roohani Khazain vol.3 p.220)

"The writings of a Liar will definitely contain contradictions." (Zamima Braheen Ahmadiyya part 5, Roohani Khazain vol.21 p.275)

Dear Qadiani/Ahmadi Friends! Surely you have faith in all the above things. Now we give you a chance to prove how much faith you have on Mirza Ghulam A Qadiani and to prove whether you are on the right path or not. Or is it that you have been taken for a ride? Read the following quotations of Mirza Sahib carefully, read above and below, right and left of them, and make sure that nothing has been taken out of context.

"And the reason for the name 'Mahdi' as has been narrated, is this that he will not take knowledge from scholars and will get guidance from God, just as the way God had given guidance to his Prophet Muhammad SAAW, he had taken knowledge and guidance from God only." (Najm-ul-Huda, Roohani Khazain vol.14 p.90)

"Thus, the coming person was named Mahdi, and there is this hint in it that that coming person will get religious knowledge from God, and will not be a student of any teacher in Quran and Hadith. Thus I say it on OATH that this state is my state. No one can prove that I have studied even a chapter of Quran or Hadith or Tafseer from any human or have been a student of any Mufassir (Commentator of Quran) or Muhaddith (Expert of Hadith). Thus this the Mahdi-hood which I have attained on the pattern of Muhammadi prophethood." (Ayam-us-Sulh, Roohani Khazain vol.14 p.394)

But on the other hand, he said:

"In childhood, my education was done in this manner that when I was 6,7 years old, a persian-speaking teacher was appointed for me who taught me Holy Quran and some persian books and the name of this teacher was Fazal Ilahi. And when my age was about 10 years, then an Arabic teacher was appointed for my education whose name was Fazal Ahmad ... when I reached 17 or 18 years of age, I had the opportunity of recieving education from another Molvi Sahib, his name was Gul Ali Shah." (Kitab ul Bariyah, Roohani Khazain vol.13 p.180-181)

"I do not claim that I am that Mahdi who is according to (words of Hadith) 'from the son of Fatima and from my progeny' etc." (Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya V, Roohani Khazain vol.21 p.356)

"We admit this that several Mahdis may have come before and possibly will come in future as well and probably someone by the name of Imam Muhammad may also appear." (Roohani Khazain vol.3 p.379)

Dear Qadiani/Ahmadi friends!! Does these writings not prove the lies and contradictions of Mirza Ghulam? Can a Liar be Imam Mahdi AS? Would you still insist that Mirza Ghulam Qadiani Sahib is Imam Mahdi?

From Anti Ahmadiyya Movement, we offer a reward of Rs. 500,000/= (about US$ 10,000/=) cash to the first among you who can prove in any court of law of the world that these quotations are wrong and therefore Mirza Ghulam A Qadiani is Imam Mahdi.

Wa maa alainaa ill- alBalaagh Wassalamun 'ala mun ittaba alHuda

Dr. Syed Rashid Ali Ahtesham-ul-Haq Abdul Bari Dated 29th Rabi-ul-Awwal 1421/June2000


Would Ahmadis Sign this declaration?
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For Ahmadis Qadianis Attention

All sincere Qadianis, please declare!

We request all sincere Qadianis who believe in the prophethood, messiahship, mahdihood of Mirza Ghulam A. Qadiani, should prove their unflailing loyalty and love for Mirza Ghulam by signing the following declaration and sending a copy to us,:  

I, ............... s/o ............................ declare on oath that I consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, founder of Ahmadiyya Movement as appointed by Allah, and accepts him as the Prophet, Promised Messiah and Imam Mahdi. Moreover I pray that may Allah gave me the same manner of death as Mirza Ghulam A. Qadiani, Hakeem Nuruddin, Mirza Basheer Ahmad, Mirza Mahmud (2nd Khalifa) and Zafarullah Khan; O Allah gave me the same manner of death as my messiah, Mirza Ghulam, and raise me in his company on the day of judgement and keep me in his company and company of his companions forever in the hereafter. Ameen.  


I hope that all qadianis will have the sinceerity and courage to sign this declaration. The door is open for anyone to prove his loyalty.

Wassalam to those who follow the hidayah

Dr. Syed Rashid Ali rasyed@emirates.net.ae Homepage


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